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Which pencil do you use for penciling on stained canvas? please help

Hi, I would like to  ask you about the pencil you use for drawing on stained canvas? Do you use Stabilo-All Pencil 8044 Yellow, which Mark recommands?
Are there any aletrnatives?


  • Cheap yellow coloured pencil that I stole from my son, or more usually burnt umber diluted with turps.

    I don't use Geneva stain; I just buy pre-primed canvases then give them a coat of "school grade" white acrylic, with enough burnt umber added to get the shade I want. I've found that Chromacryl brand burnt umber is almost the exact tone as the Geneva stain, once mixed with white.

    My pallet (an A3 photo frame) is painted the same colour (under the glass), which in my view seems to be the most important thing.

    That way, I have more money left for Absinthe.

    #bottomfeeding #starvingartist
  • Datura

    I like Stabilo Carbothello pastel pencils. But I have used fine line pigment pens on difficult surfaces.

  • @Observer - thanks for your info.
    @Dencal - Stabilo All, that Mark recommends is a watercolor pencil. So I can use a pastel one, it won't mix with paints?

  • dencaldencal -
    edited March 2018

    I have not had any mixing or contamination trouble with pastel pencils.
    Mostof my drawings are on an acrylic block in, acrylic under painting or acrylic toning.

    If this remains a concern a light spray working fixative, or a light hairspray will seal the pastel.


  • More great ideas, thanks all!
  • SummerSummer -
    edited March 2018
    I use both what Mark recommends and the pigment pens but I'm always on the lookout for something better.  I experimented with a black permanent magic marker with good test results on paper but still want to try it on canvas under an oil painting.   
  • @movealonghome , what brand/type pencil is that?
  • edited May 2020
    I always painting on my t shirt and custom shoes, I used Tooli-Art 30 acrylic paint pens. Tt has a very small pen tip size of 0.7mm,there are 30 colors and fast drying, safety free of any acid or chemicals. This is great permanent marker on canvas. 
  • edited August 2020
    I don't really like using pencils for canvas. I enjoy Creative Joy Fabric Markers for painting on canvas. I bought these Creative Joy fabric markers because they have dual tips. I can use the broader tip for shading and the fine tip to create crisp lines. Both tips are good and have nice flexibility that makes them easier to work on softer fabrics. I also like it because the ink is vivid and bright
  • I tend to work on gessoed wooden panels. I don't get the detail I want with charcoal, and graphite is meant to cause problems. After trying various, I am happy with polychromo pencil.

    "Faber Castell Polychromos Pencils are a unique tool in the world of sketching. They are oil based as opposed to being wax based like other pencils, allowing them to blend with solvents, like turpentine or white spirit in a similar way to how you would blend oil paints".

    I like them and have had no issues so far. 

  • I bought this for sketching. Little did I know that it would not show up or erase. $5 for something that is useless to me. Pencil sticks to this white "pencil" but once you try to erase it doesn't move. Ruined my recent sketch. Waste of money for one useless pencil.
  • I use Artistro acrylic paint marker for canvas, Acrylic ink for a high level of versatility and application on diverse surfaces including fabric, metal, wood, rock and more. The pigments dry fast, allowing me to get on with my project in no time, so no need for waiting around for hours. 
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