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Should I even say this...
Okay, I don’t know if it’s the snarky mood I am in or what but seriously... (talking instagram here) people put some artist up on this high pedestal so much so they look at them like an artist god or something. I wanna say yes it’s good but sometimes I do spot some wonky things, they are successful at their art and great.... but are they so far out of our reach?
I don’t believe so because I have seen better art here on this forum from first and second time DMP works than some of the so called “modern day masters”
it it kind of bugs me when you see a piece of work and it is however many thousand of likes and comments of “wow, amazing, are you Jesus of the art world” brown nosing baloney..., I think I’m ranting oh well at least I will vent tonight , sleep, laugh about it with you tomorrow and move on to painting what I paint later lol. Thanks for listening.
I don’t believe so because I have seen better art here on this forum from first and second time DMP works than some of the so called “modern day masters”
it it kind of bugs me when you see a piece of work and it is however many thousand of likes and comments of “wow, amazing, are you Jesus of the art world” brown nosing baloney..., I think I’m ranting oh well at least I will vent tonight , sleep, laugh about it with you tomorrow and move on to painting what I paint later lol. Thanks for listening.
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In just about every field of human endeavour there are frauds, fake news, self agrandisement, deception and creative marketing. A touch of calm objectivity brings the realisation that things level out and adjust over time to bring the perpetrators to book. Life is too short and the quality of life too fragile to let such things annoy you. Quality and value will shine through, given sufficient exposure to the market.
DMPrs do not market or promote themselves, singularly or as a group. There are a few exceptions.
Why don’t we have a DMP sales page that is independently run but provides a commission to Mark.
A membership fee of $50 to $100 each ought to build a great sales outlet. Could operate as a brokerage, with members responsible for content and order fulfilment.
Denis
Case in point.... I want to give this guy my honest opinion....it’s a watercolor... ballerina....yes amazing realism beautiful work.... I can’t even execute oils at the same level so who am I, right?
however... hands to big not feminine and it seems unfinished from the wrist down... do you see it to? But there are literally people calling him Jesus and saying leave something for the humans ... um WTF it’s great but it isn’t god like...?! Should he be worshipped in a sense because of it... my opinion no... like I said I have seen people do amazing things here from first timers just as good. That is my honest criticism of it( finish it lol) and don’t worship the man that made it...... I don’t know maybe it’s just me.
( if you take the (famous) name and the person out of the equation what do you actually see )
absolutely agree he (this particular artist) is outstanding as an artist but when I do see something I don’t want to feel like people are so far “above” me that I can’t say it..... sorry if I don’t make any sense at all ... and of course art and how you interpret it is different for everyone.
Artist generally just chose what they prefer to work with. It doesn’t mean they or you can do something just as good in another medium.
I believe if you know those principals you can create anything in any medium.
There is one watercolour artist I know has won zillions of awards, is featured in the magazines, and was recently rated one of the best 10 watercolour artists this year. I for the life of me can not see why; the drawing is atrocious, the subjects are generic, and the technique is garish and unappealing. I am stuck in the place of not knowing whether the art is actually bad, or whether I am just missing something. Im hesitant to fly in the face of all the kudos and just sort of sit back and try to figure it out. It irritates me though. So I get what you're saying from that perspective. Anyway here's the link to the discussion of the Balerina painting, I think it's informative.
@Kingston, and @jswartzt this is precisely what just about every one of my teachers were trying to teach us to avoid at all cost, but also such an easy trap to fall into, even without realizing. Many benefits to painting from life before attempting much of anything else. The above is an amazing painting for watercolor no doubt. When I was studying watercolor, this realism as above but from life, was what we were aiming for by one of the teachers I had. I am happy to be here learning oil painting now, this is fantastic! If I understand correctly, this is where "freeform painting from photo" is of benefit to be aware of.
Most of my favorite artists are narrative illustrator's for that reason. What they do goes beyond just "technical skill". They have to convey story, feelings, passion just like you said. And the nature of the work keeps them from being slaves to reference. They use reference correctly, just as a guide that they follow loosely to create something new and unique.
Can you imagine living in the 40s,50s, 60s etc... when artists who didn't even know how to draw were all the rage and true masters with great skill (in my opinion) were ignored completely.
Denis
A DMPers commercial site is doable but NOT tied to Mark Carder Himself financially or digitally (except links) Can still be exclusively for DMP. Mark is an entrepenuer as mach as an artist and if he thought it was a good idea he would have done it already. But we should start a new discussion in the proper place.
@jswartzart, @Julianna, You are not alone or a tree falling in an unoccupied forest. I think many people who have some experience with trying to make art (serious or not) have similar feelings. In fact I wonder if some of these adoring fans are back in the studios for the first time since highschool trying to emulate them and partake in the bounty with these 21st century masters. We are also products of our generation and possess an objectivity that later generations find impossibe to manifest in themselves.