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@Rich_A Thanks man, I saw that you came from digital like myself:) or at least you do both too. It has been nice to learn traditional tools lately for me! I have been using Nitram charcoals, which is neither willow or vine. They are really great, and can lift from the paper really easy, even in the darkest parts.@MichaelD These pencils look so nice! are they graphite? I am really bad with drawing with lines tho xD. Charcoal is pretty fun you should try it!