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A shared reproduction wip. Vermeer The Concert. Completed

werbywerby -
edited November 29 in Post Your Paintings
  Hey guys,
    It'd been a while but am taking a break from the Gallery to work on some new originals and do some practice work on some reproductions. 

Original was stolen 1990 so trying for a copy of my own.

original:













dencaltassieguyRosanneFlattyKaustav

Comments

  • Werby

    Looking good.

    Denis

  • Great painting to copy and you've made a good start, @Werby. Are you going to add colour on top of the grisaille? 
  • tassieguy said:
    Great painting to copy and you've made a good start, @Werby. Are you going to add colour on top of the grisaille? 
    yes. This one has a nice limited palette with about 70% glazing. It will take awhile to finish the grisaille though but will post the glazing and detailing.
  • werbywerby -
    edited October 18
    Progressing slowly and enjoying a little time spent away from my abstracts. 
    a lot of corrections and wiping out and doing again. Everyday begins correcting the tiles and still have a lot more correcting.

    removed WIP for faster loading
    PaulBmjkeaneyRosanne
  • werbywerby -
    edited October 9
    Starting to see daylight on the grisalle. A considerable amount of time working on who appears to be Van Ruiven wife's face (standing). The painting on the wall appears to be some coronation and is like painting ghosts but slowly they all seem to come together. Looking forward to bringing a little color and a big temptation, but will wait until it is ready.


    mjkeaneyRenoirKaustav
  • werbywerby -
    edited October 18
    continue to progress.

    removed redundant WIP for faster loading

    PaulBJack2015
  • I really like Vermeer's work and this is very good. Can't wait to see it finished.
  • Hello, looks very impressive! You do have a lot of hard edges there, something that Vermeer didn't have. Is this more your painting style or a conscious choice? :)

    I'm also doing a reproduction of Vermeer at the moment - "A girl with a pearl earring"
  • I feel that this one is gonna come out nicely. Quite good already. Can't wait to see. 
    I may have a go with a reproduction myself that now i have a new printer. Sounds fun!
  • werbywerby -
    edited October 14
    Richard_P said:
    Hello, looks very impressive! You do have a lot of hard edges there, something that Vermeer didn't have. Is this more your painting style or a conscious choice? :)

    I'm also doing a reproduction of Vermeer at the moment - "A girl with a pearl earring"
    Edges blend out eventually especially with the two paintings hanging on the wall. I will blend them out to match the original it just helps to have a good idea where the edges actually are. I still have a while to go before glazing, a lot of blending and correcting left.

    I Would like to see the WIP of the girl with the pearl earring.

     I enjoyed doing the girl with the red hat a few years back. It took a while to finish with quite a few layers to get the sfumato effect.


    petedartist
  • werbywerby -
    edited October 14
    Moving along slowly and about a week from starting to add some color.




    BoudiccaKaustav
  • Jack2015 said:
    I feel that this one is gonna come out nicely. Quite good already. Can't wait to see. 
    I may have a go with a reproduction myself that now i have a new printer. Sounds fun!
    Thanks. I find doing reproductions are a nice way to keep practicing while working on originals. 
  • still correcting but starting to move toward the next steps.


    Kaustav
  • werbywerby -
    edited October 18
    still doing some corrections on the tile floor and the whitewashed wall. I am able to start blocking in and pre glazing some of the areas. The painting on the right will gradually continue to loose detail. It helped a lot to add the details earlier in the right hanging painting so highlighting areas makes more sense. 


    Kaustav
  • Hmm.. so you are not just glazing, but going to refine the details too?

    I'd be interested to know how long you have spent on the painting so far :)
  • Richard_P said:
    Hmm.. so you are not just glazing, but going to refine the details too?

    I'd be interested to know how long you have spent on the painting so far :)
    About 20 hours a week for going on 3 weeks. 

    It is and odd painting and not like some of his portraits which seems to be a good deal more glazing. This seems to be more like blocking, glazing, detailing and repeating. A couple hundred years of fading and no good prints since the painting has been missing for 27 years is also adding to the difficult. The Girl with the Red Hat was easier because I work across the street from the original.
  • Thanks for letting me know. Seems like you still have a lot to do. I don't work in glazes, so it's interesting to hear about how artists that do use it work :)

    werby said:
    The Girl with the Red Hat was easier because I work across the street from the original.
    Lucky!! :)
  • Impressive to me. Thanks for sharing.
  • The last update for awhile. This is the baseline for the glazing on 90% of the picture and now it is just a matter of building up layers and correcting. I will post another when the blanket has been started. I guess it is somewhere around a third completed with still some minor corrections to overall image in the tile and mans hair. Is is the same as DMP method just verify with proportional divider and color after each glaze layer with color checker. A good example is the blouse is started with lemon yellow but will need several layers of Indian yellow to correct. The blanket and instruments will need several layers of vermillion and rose madder before adding detail. The wall will need blue tint and a yellow vermillion before adding the scumbling of white. The one thing about reproductions is you can really admire the amount of detail and thought that went into each item.I would imagine by the time I am done I would have to go over each section around 20 times with each time more and more detail.


    Richard_PFlattyKaustav
  • edited October 23
    werby said:
    I would imagine by the time I am done I would have to go over each section around 20 times with each time more and more detail.
    :o  I just can't imagine doing that!

    Have you tried using the DMP method and doing it all in one pass?
  • Richard_P said:
    werby said:
    I would imagine by the time I am done I would have to go over each section around 20 times with each time more and more detail.
    :o  I just can't imagine doing that!

    Have you tried using the DMP method and doing it all in one pass?
    I wouldn't think it would be impossible but pretty diffucult to get a match. It is more of an exercise in different techniques and a way of forcing patience. I think the movie "Tim's Vermeer" he does a direct method and comes out pretty convincing. I would love to see someone do one using strict DMP technique and watch it progress. 
    I end up going over it so many times because I only do small portions at a time in detail and correct larger sections. The time spent not painting i take notes on what needs to be fixed.
    On the image i just posted some of the right tiles are off and the standing woman back neckline is incorrect.
  • Certainly sounds like you have patience!!

    I am using a variant of DMP (but still wet-in-wet one layer) for my version of the Girl with a Pearl Earring. :)
  • Richard_P said:
    Certainly sounds like you have patience!!

    I am using a variant of DMP (but still wet-in-wet one layer) for my version of the Girl with a Pearl Earring. :)
    It is a wonderful painting and would like to see the progress and notes on the progression. I seen a few nice reproductions that where able to create that beautiful innocent but alluring glance.

    most importantly though is enjoying the painting process.

    Patience will save your paintings and a willingness to wipe out hours of work for small corrections. 
  • progress continues. I had several major corrections and moving toward the finish-line. 


    FlattyKaustav
  • Wow! What a massive endeavour. Kudos to you for your patience and dedication. 
  • glazing continues. A blue glaze covering the top half. There is 8 layers of yellow in the sitting woman's blouse and about 15 layers on the standing woman face. The Cello on the floor will need to be covered with direct painting along with the top part of the blanket. The wall still requires a light yellow glaze, black glaze, and scumbling white for the highlights. The white tiles all have details to complete and the b;ack tiles have dark blue accents.


    Forgiveness
  • Looking good! The number of glazes still makes me gasp.. :)
  • Awesome! Painting a painting in a painting is always an interesting challenge. You really handled it well.
  • werbywerby -
    edited November 7
    Slow but steady progression. I will have to let it sit for a few days to work out the details on the cello and corrections on the blanket. The Wall is going to take some white highlight scumbling and a few more layers of blue and yellow glaze. I still need about a week on the details of the tile floor.

    The yellow blouse still needs to be glazed over with indian yellow along with about 80% of the painting (all but the bottom left corner area ( table, cello and blanket)). I will need to wait until everything is 100% dry before attempting because very minor changes can be made after glazing the indian yellow.

    I am around 70+ hours in and estimate another 30+ to complete. 



    I am going to pass on anymore Vermeer reproductions for a while.
    PaulBFlattyKaustav
  • I imagine this painting being too heavy to lift.  Lovely work!
  • Most of the glazing is completed so just some details to include pearl necklaces and a cane. The blanket,table and cello are ready to be completed with details. The tile floor needs about a weeks worth of work and corrections ( probably for me the most difficult part of this painting.

    I included a few up close and detailed images.






    PaulBKaustavEstherH
  • @werby such a gutsy task! Copying from such a famous painting! Virginal and viol do gamba both are amazingly done. Now the question is how far do you want to go!
  • Looking forward to seeing the finished project!
  • werbywerby -
    edited November 15
    Kaustav said:
    @werby such a gutsy task! Copying from such a famous painting! Virginal and viol do gamba both are amazingly done. Now the question is how far do you want to go!
    Thanks for the nice comment (had no idea what the instruments were called).

    I will push it to the end as best as i can no matter how long it takes. This is my way of relaxing and the rest of my painting time is spent working on my originals. I think the key to reproductions is patience....

    When its done is always the hardest for me with a reproduction. I have to finish the painting with a few layers of indian yellow glaze and can not do anything after. I only work a little at a time now trying to complete each part from back to front and enjoying each step. I try to let it sit for a day while i journal the parts that need to be fixed next.

    example.
    Major issue,
    After photographing it was easy to see the closet tiles are off and need to be corrected.
  • @werby It is amazing! what are you using as a glazing medium and what colors?
    werby
  • werbywerby -
    edited November 15
    Kaustav said:
    @werby It is amazing! what are you using as a glazing medium and what colors?
    I primarily use 
    1/3 pure gum turpentine 
    1/3 linseed
    1/3 damar varnish

    The girl with the red hat pictured above required a lot more layers. I only used Venetian turpentine because it has a soft way of blending out the edges. 

    The colors are 

    lead white, yellow ochre, vermillion, rose madder, ultramarine blue, raw umber, carbon and ivory black, and Indian yellow. The greens are mixed and the blouse was done first in lemon yellow and than about 10 layers of Indian yellow. The back of chair was a mixed orange glazes over with madder and repeated about 5 times.

    thanks for the nice comment and means a lot because I really enjoy your paintings.
    Kaustav
  • way to go! @werby will wait to see that pearly effect!
  • Quite a few changes. The cello had to moved and resized and the chair legs were off but look corrected now. I am getting close to completion after i finish detailing the rug, blue dress, and the highlights. The tile floor and the wall posed a nice challenge and still need a little work,



    Richard_PForgivenessFlatty
  • werbywerby -
    edited November 29
    Took a while and a lot of layers to dry. I am adding some screenshots of some of the details that took so long to complete. The final coats of glaze really softened up the entire painting and sort of pulled it all together. The actual whitewashed walls was a new one for me and a great learning experience.




    PaulBForgivenessBOB73jswartzart

  • She took the longest and required the most work.


    PaulBForgivenessKaustav
  • Each tile was individually painted with a marble effect making sure to yellow and highlighted. If you look at one of the tiles under the cane you can see where Vermeer made some adjustments and thought it would be fun to add it also.



    PaulBForgivenessKaustav
  • She was the most fun to paint and i love the fact no hands or feet to render.


    PaulBForgiveness
  • My favorite part to work on was the instrument on the table, the blanket, and how Vermeer used what looks like white opened books to highlight. There is no glazing on the blanket just a few layers of light impasto work.



    PaulBForgivenessKschaben
  • Thank you for all the nice comments and especially the advice. I still have to paint the strings but will wait about a week and than atlas two months to Varnish. I am looking now for a replica of the frame that the picture was stolen from. I will post it when varnished and framed.
    ForgivenessMoeyMichele
  • It's wonderful, what a huge project.  It's been fascinating to watch, thank you @werby.
    Forgiveness
  • Congratulations on a fine copy.
  • Wow, incredible painting. This would have drove me nuts to paint. I certainly do not have your level of patience.
  • Thanks Werby, this was very interesting to watch.
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